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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 5:24 pm?? ?Post subject: Reply with quote

"What's a martial art with the least possible contact?"

Answer: worthless.

Most martial arts schools are just belt factories intent on taking your money. Look into combat sports. For stand up, try: Muay Thai, (Kick)boxing, or varieties thereof. For grappling: Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Wrestling, or Judo.

If you're a weak and small guy, the stand up systems aren't going to do much for you unless you dedicate a significant portion of your life to it and become very good at it.

Grappling is much better, but since you don't want to do that, I suggest you buy a can of pepperspray.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 5:26 pm?? ?Post subject: Reply with quote

Icyclan wrote:
"What's a martial art with the least possible contact?"

Answer: worthless.

Most martial arts schools are just belt factories intent on taking your money. Look into combat sports. For stand up, try: Muay Thai, (Kick)boxing, or varieties thereof. For grappling: Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Wrestling, or Judo.

If you're a weak and small guy, the stand up systems aren't going to do much for you unless you dedicate a significant portion of your life to it and become very good at it.

Grappling is much better, but since you don't want to do that, I suggest you buy a can of pepperspray.

I'm OCD, I can't stand grappling.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 5:32 pm?? ?Post subject: Reply with quote

OldFashioned wrote:
Icyclan wrote:
"What's a martial art with the least possible contact?"

Answer: worthless.

Most martial arts schools are just belt factories intent on taking your money. Look into combat sports. For stand up, try: Muay Thai, (Kick)boxing, or varieties thereof. For grappling: Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Wrestling, or Judo.

If you're a weak and small guy, the stand up systems aren't going to do much for you unless you dedicate a significant portion of your life to it and become very good at it.

Grappling is much better, but since you don't want to do that, I suggest you buy a can of pepperspray.

I'm OCD, I can't stand grappling.

So am I, albeit probably less than you. But oddly enough, it just seems to switch off, for lack of a better description, during my grappling classes. I'd say bite the bullet, try a class and see if you like it. Grappling is strangely therapeutic.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 5:37 pm?? ?Post subject: Reply with quote

Icyclan wrote:
Most martial arts schools are just belt factories intent on taking your money.

A statement that really depends on your current location. In most european countries, there are very little "bullshido" dojos, especially in Germany, we have many clubs that are non-profit organizations that have no interest in money, and membership costs you maybe 10 bucks a month. And while I agree that sports like Muay Thai or Kickboxing can be good for self-defence, pure grappling styles are far from it, and I say that as a long time practitioner of BJJ.

Karate is a good choice. Many styles focus on Kihon and Kata - basic training and forms, both practiced on your own. Even in during sparring, depending on the style, you do not make contact (which is detrimental for self-defence training, so I would always go for full-contact Karate styles like Kyokushin if that was my goal). For the beginning, you might wanna check out Filipino Martial Arts. You usually start out with training in weaponry, and that usually involved much contact only between two sticks of rattan.

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starryeyedvoyager wrote:
Icyclan wrote:
Most martial arts schools are just belt factories intent on taking your money.

A statement that really depends on your current location. In most european countries, there are very little "bullshido" dojos, especially in Germany, we have many clubs that are non-profit organizations that have no interest in money, and membership costs you maybe 10 bucks a month. And while I agree that sports like Muay Thai or Kickboxing can be good for self-defence, pure grappling styles are far from it, and I say that as a long time practitioner of BJJ.

Karate is a good choice. Many styles focus on Kihon and Kata - basic training and forms, both practiced on your own. Even in during sparring, depending on the style, you do not make contact (which is detrimental for self-defence training, so I would always go for full-contact Karate styles like Kyokushin if that was my goal). For the beginning, you might wanna check out Filipino Martial Arts. You usually start out with training in weaponry, and that usually involved much contact only between two sticks of rattan.

Kyokushin is not that great of a choice for self-defence, they omit the single most important and effective strike from their curriculum: the punch to the head. Not too mention there's no grappling at all. There's far less kata and kihon than in other styles, but it is still there and it takes up time that is better spent hitting the bag or sparring. I trained in it for 4 years, but that was only because there was nothing better around here at the time as far as stand up goes.

I'm sorry, but you're wrong on BJJ. It was developed for self-defence in one of the most violent countries on earth, and a scrawny little practitioner managed to win the early UFCs with it, beating all other styles. It has proven itself in countless (videotaped) fights, both with and without rules, and to this day it is a staple of any MMA practitioner who even thinks about stepping into the ring. It has served me extremely well during my time as a doorman, and I don't know anyone in real life who trains in it and who doesn't feel it makes them significantly more capable of defending themselves. Judo and Wrestling are lacking as stand-alone self-defence styles, BJJ is not.

The only weakness I can see is not in BJJ itself, but in the way it is taught in some schools. Some schools' classes are geared exclusively towards BJJ competitions, and the self-defense portion takes a backseat.

Edit: wrong no. of years, never mind.

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